Thursday 15 February 2007

Apostasy Posing as Revival

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.(Romans 16:17)

NOTE:
contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned;

contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned;



I kings 18:17
And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah, that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel? I kings 18:17


And he answered, I have not troubled Israel; but thou, and thy father's house, in that ye have forsaken the commandments of the LORD, and thou hast followed Baalim. I kings 18:18



Summon: Apostasy Posing AS Revival
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=&sermonID=121105103854


Hope you will be blessed by the summon, just like I have been .

God bless you.
Kizito Michael George


See how I was attached for standing for God’s true word in the KJV

http://www.revivalschool.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5205&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


The e-mail was deleted for causing division.



Revival should be God centered not man centered.


http://www.revivalschool.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=3424223#3424223



For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known. Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops. Luke 12:2-3

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.(Ephesians 5:11)


if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.(Isaiah 8:20)

For time is come that judgement must begin at the house of God…1 Peter 4:17



The facts speak loudly that Charles Finney's revival techniques were man centered. In addition he was a disciple of certain erroneous doctrines. What mistakes did Finney make as regards, revival? I humbly request Bro. Andrew and the saints on the forum to rebuttal or clarify on the issues in the e-mail. Please do not accuse me of causing strife.

God bless you.



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Andrew Strom is a devoted disciple of the dangerous teachings of Charles Finney. Here are a few excerpts and updates from a letter that I wrote to Andrew Strom a few weeks ago after reviewing a couple of his audio teachings. It's a little long but if you have time, please read it. (He refused to reply. All he did was sign me up to his bogus email newsletter without my permission.) My comments touched on only a few of Andrew's many unbiblical teachings and practices.

Dear Andrew,

I would be remiss in my duty and responsibility as a Christian not point out a couple of glaring inconsistencies in your audio teachings.

It is well noted by many Christian authors, one in particular that in Finney's false theology, I quote:

"man is not a sinner by nature, the atonement is not a true payment for sin, justification by imputation is insulting to reason and morality, the new birth is simply the effect of successful techniques, and revival is a natural result of clever campaigns."

All of this is error but the first four points are devastating foundational heresies. The very "revival" you seek is undermined by promoting a man (Finney) who teaches these dangerous views. Among other things, Finney is man-centered not Christ centered.

These issues are not a matter of secondary doctrines or personal preferences. In addition, you preach a number of things that you say have been confirmed by your experience, which I must say is a dangerous gauge indeed. Yet these teaching of yours are nowhere to be found in the Bible and therefore cannot be established by the Word of God, which is the only real gauge and final authority for all things related to faith and practice in the Christian life. Many of your teachings are in fact in direct conflict with the Bible. I understand well the excitement and emotions, feelings and goose bumps that can be generated through revivalism experiences. I was involved in this for about a year and half straight as a music leader in an extended South Chicago "revival" in the USA.

I unwittingly used to write and sing unscriptural songs like "Holy Spirit Come" without realizing how doctrinally off I was. Jesus said that He would never leave us or forsake us and the Bible teaches that Christians already have the Holy Spirit. Further, the Bible also teaches that we are temples of the Holy Spirit and that God's Spirit no longer dwells in temples made by the hands of man. Yet I was desperately trying to create a musical atmosphere by which I could unwittingly "conjure" up the Holy Spirit so He would "fall" and manifest himself in tangible reality in churches made by the hands of men. That was more like witchcraft than Christianity and I have since repented of my heresy.

Obedience to God's Word brings "revival" but it takes the power of God to bring men to such repentance. Clever techniques do not bring lasting results and usually do more harm than good. Finney himself admitted that he saw little lasting fruit from his revival crusades. This is likely the main reason he left his crusades and went on to try his hand as a pastor. Further, the fallout from Finney's teachings have been traced directly as the forerunner of, or at very least a major contributor to the Purpose Driven / Church Growth Movement error and many other dangerous modern movements. This fact is also significant because Jesus said that you shall know them by their fruit.

You have some good and helpful ideas but a mixture of truth and error is a corruption. You seem to advocate a hyper-works mentality, a work harder, pray harder, be holier, repent again and again over and over, not believing you are saved theology. Be careful not to convert true Christians into goats (if that were possible) in your attempt to convert goats to sheep.

I plead with you and respectfully admonish you to stop promoting Finney and others like him and instead return (if you were ever there to begin with) to preaching and teaching the Word of God alone. Failure to do so will leave those under your care drowning in an endless man-centered quagmire of never being holy enough, never praying hard enough, never repenting enough and fearing that they are not good enough to be saved. (This heretical thinking denies Christ's finished work at the cross and denies the utter sinfulness of man and instead requires man to first be "good enough" to be saved. But the Bible says that none are good, not one. And, of course no man can attain enough goodness to save himself otherwise Jesus died in vain.) It is well documented and even Finney admitted that many were burned out by what he taught. We simply do not see any teaching in the Word of God burning out the early church.

While we should all strive to be perfect as God is perfect, we cannot shift focus from Christ to revival or from having faith in God to having faith in our repentance or goodness or the results will be devastating. Preaching repentance without faith in Christ causes a shift from faith in Christ to faith in self and generates a dangerous false confidence that one not only can but must save their own soul. This is a devastating heresy.

Sincerely and In His Service,

Paul Howey
captivesfree.org



Summons on Finney

Life and legacy of Charles Finney

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